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	<title>Comments on: The Retropolis Multi-POD Web Site, Part 1:  Design Considerations</title>
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		<title>By: Bradley W. Schenck</title>
		<link>http://www.webomator.com/2009/11/24/the-retropolis-multi-pod-web-site-part-1-design-considerations/comment-page-1/#comment-11445</link>
		<dc:creator>Bradley W. Schenck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 14:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By reading the breadcrumb I can tell whether a current section is &lt;em&gt;the child &lt;/em&gt;of another section.  That&#039;s very helpful for me, since different parent sections can have different default sidebars (and other things).

So part of my Javascript parses the breadcrumb string for specific main section names and that way I know whether I&#039;m in a main section, or in a subsection of a main section.  For what I&#039;m doing that&#039;s very useful.

I think you&#039;ll have a simpler time by working with domain remapping.  The thing that might be a problem is that your PF pages will be limited to whatever you can do in the PF customization interface.  I don&#039;t see how you could do some of the things I&#039;m doing in PHP, for example, which is preferable since Googlebot won&#039;t read anything but images and links that you&#039;ve added with Javascript.

It&#039;s confusing and frustrating... &lt;em&gt;parts&lt;/em&gt; of the Google system read text that&#039;s written with Javascript but it just doesn&#039;t get indexed even though they&#039;ve been able to read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By reading the breadcrumb I can tell whether a current section is <em>the child </em>of another section.  That&#8217;s very helpful for me, since different parent sections can have different default sidebars (and other things).</p>
<p>So part of my Javascript parses the breadcrumb string for specific main section names and that way I know whether I&#8217;m in a main section, or in a subsection of a main section.  For what I&#8217;m doing that&#8217;s very useful.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ll have a simpler time by working with domain remapping.  The thing that might be a problem is that your PF pages will be limited to whatever you can do in the PF customization interface.  I don&#8217;t see how you could do some of the things I&#8217;m doing in PHP, for example, which is preferable since Googlebot won&#8217;t read anything but images and links that you&#8217;ve added with Javascript.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s confusing and frustrating&#8230; <em>parts</em> of the Google system read text that&#8217;s written with Javascript but it just doesn&#8217;t get indexed even though they&#8217;ve been able to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Thalia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 01:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my gawd I could kiss you!  I should at least send you a fruit basket.

I must be cleverer than I thought because that was the idea I thought might work: a script in the sidebar checking for the specific URL, then calling up the correct content.  I was wondering why breadcrumbs were so important to you. 

I was not planning on using MyPFStore, though; I&#039;m not looking to consolidate all my various POD endeavours on my site proper.  I was going to use PF&#039;s domain mapping thing, and so I&#039;m not worried about duplicate content.  Mainly I want those sidebars for information about the designs, and the stories/myths behind the images.  

Again thank you so much for explaining.  That&#039;s more than enough info to get me started.

&lt;3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my gawd I could kiss you!  I should at least send you a fruit basket.</p>
<p>I must be cleverer than I thought because that was the idea I thought might work: a script in the sidebar checking for the specific URL, then calling up the correct content.  I was wondering why breadcrumbs were so important to you. </p>
<p>I was not planning on using MyPFStore, though; I&#8217;m not looking to consolidate all my various POD endeavours on my site proper.  I was going to use PF&#8217;s domain mapping thing, and so I&#8217;m not worried about duplicate content.  Mainly I want those sidebars for information about the designs, and the stories/myths behind the images.  </p>
<p>Again thank you so much for explaining.  That&#8217;s more than enough info to get me started.</p>
<p>&lt;3</p>
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		<title>By: Bradley W. Schenck</title>
		<link>http://www.webomator.com/2009/11/24/the-retropolis-multi-pod-web-site-part-1-design-considerations/comment-page-1/#comment-11442</link>
		<dc:creator>Bradley W. Schenck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 04:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must be talking about the custom sidebars at the Retropolis site, I think?  That really is the cleverest thing I did over there.

I originally wrote all of that in Javascript, but later converted a bunch of it to PHP (&lt;em&gt;edit - well, I &lt;strong&gt;think&lt;/strong&gt; I did, anyway&lt;/em&gt;) so that it would taste better to Google.  Which is the whole point - you don&#039;t want your site to look like duplicate content when Googlebot sees it.  So more appropriate text in those sidebars is a big plus.

But it&#039;s pretty complicated.  I have to read two pieces of information in order for my page to &lt;em&gt;always&lt;/em&gt; know what section its content is coming from.  First off, I can read the breadcrumb text that comes in from Printfection.  That alone tells me most of what I need to know, except - if I remember this correctly - if you&#039;re on the tab state of a product page (sizes, bulk prices, image closeup).  To nail those last few possibilities I have to read the URL of the current page and look for the clues there.

Some of this takes place in a hacked version of the MyPFStore breadcrumb file; the rest is in a Javascript file.   I just had a look through there and I&#039;m not finding all the PHP changes that I &lt;em&gt;thought&lt;/em&gt; I made.  So, you know, I&#039;m confused as well.  I&#039;d have to go back to my notes.

To figure out what section or a subsection I&#039;m in, though, it gets sort of ugly.  I have to test for the &lt;em&gt;names of the sections&lt;/em&gt; in the breadcrumb string.  That makes it pretty hard to  prepare a general purpose version that other people can use.  I guess there could be a sort of admin page where you could define those in, um, a perfect world.

For sections there&#039;s a failsafe - if no custom sidebar is present, a default one gets loaded instead.  There&#039;s one place I know where there isn&#039;t enough error checking, which is the case where there&#039;s no custom product image for a sidebar.  You get a missing image icon there if there wasn&#039;t one to load.

I did have to dig into all of this a few months back, when I put together the &lt;a href=&quot;http://shop.webomator.com/celtic-art-works/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Celtic Art Works&lt;/a&gt; site because that site works the same way - but I&#039;d have to dig into it pretty thoroughly again before I had a hope of really explaining it.  Of course the really cool thing would be to turn it into a system that other people could use - but maniacal laughter just burbles out of me at &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; thought.

My CPShop pages use a much simpler solution because of CPShop&#039;s hooks; but I don&#039;t think I have a failsafe sidebar for those pages, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be talking about the custom sidebars at the Retropolis site, I think?  That really is the cleverest thing I did over there.</p>
<p>I originally wrote all of that in Javascript, but later converted a bunch of it to PHP (<em>edit &#8211; well, I <strong>think</strong> I did, anyway</em>) so that it would taste better to Google.  Which is the whole point &#8211; you don&#8217;t want your site to look like duplicate content when Googlebot sees it.  So more appropriate text in those sidebars is a big plus.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s pretty complicated.  I have to read two pieces of information in order for my page to <em>always</em> know what section its content is coming from.  First off, I can read the breadcrumb text that comes in from Printfection.  That alone tells me most of what I need to know, except &#8211; if I remember this correctly &#8211; if you&#8217;re on the tab state of a product page (sizes, bulk prices, image closeup).  To nail those last few possibilities I have to read the URL of the current page and look for the clues there.</p>
<p>Some of this takes place in a hacked version of the MyPFStore breadcrumb file; the rest is in a Javascript file.   I just had a look through there and I&#8217;m not finding all the PHP changes that I <em>thought</em> I made.  So, you know, I&#8217;m confused as well.  I&#8217;d have to go back to my notes.</p>
<p>To figure out what section or a subsection I&#8217;m in, though, it gets sort of ugly.  I have to test for the <em>names of the sections</em> in the breadcrumb string.  That makes it pretty hard to  prepare a general purpose version that other people can use.  I guess there could be a sort of admin page where you could define those in, um, a perfect world.</p>
<p>For sections there&#8217;s a failsafe &#8211; if no custom sidebar is present, a default one gets loaded instead.  There&#8217;s one place I know where there isn&#8217;t enough error checking, which is the case where there&#8217;s no custom product image for a sidebar.  You get a missing image icon there if there wasn&#8217;t one to load.</p>
<p>I did have to dig into all of this a few months back, when I put together the <a href="http://shop.webomator.com/celtic-art-works/" rel="nofollow">Celtic Art Works</a> site because that site works the same way &#8211; but I&#8217;d have to dig into it pretty thoroughly again before I had a hope of really explaining it.  Of course the really cool thing would be to turn it into a system that other people could use &#8211; but maniacal laughter just burbles out of me at <em>that</em> thought.</p>
<p>My CPShop pages use a much simpler solution because of CPShop&#8217;s hooks; but I don&#8217;t think I have a failsafe sidebar for those pages, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Thalia</title>
		<link>http://www.webomator.com/2009/11/24/the-retropolis-multi-pod-web-site-part-1-design-considerations/comment-page-1/#comment-11441</link>
		<dc:creator>Thalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2012 01:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay I know this post is a couple years old (and I see I&#039;ve already been by to gush at your cleverness), and I also know that you are a very busy man, but I&#039;d *love* to know how you got that nice sidebar full of unique text over on the right at Printfection.  Something like that would come in very, very, handy for what I&#039;d like to do with my own PF store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay I know this post is a couple years old (and I see I&#8217;ve already been by to gush at your cleverness), and I also know that you are a very busy man, but I&#8217;d *love* to know how you got that nice sidebar full of unique text over on the right at Printfection.  Something like that would come in very, very, handy for what I&#8217;d like to do with my own PF store.</p>
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		<title>By: Thalia</title>
		<link>http://www.webomator.com/2009/11/24/the-retropolis-multi-pod-web-site-part-1-design-considerations/comment-page-1/#comment-7999</link>
		<dc:creator>Thalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2011 01:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy cow bless you so much for all this.  I&#039;ve been trying to figure out how to tie all my shops together but couldn&#039;t even get to the place where I could define what I wanted them to do, and hearing your reasoning (in addition to seeing what you&#039;ve done) really really helps.  Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy cow bless you so much for all this.  I&#8217;ve been trying to figure out how to tie all my shops together but couldn&#8217;t even get to the place where I could define what I wanted them to do, and hearing your reasoning (in addition to seeing what you&#8217;ve done) really really helps.  Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: DezineJunkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>DezineJunkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2010 22:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My eyes are glued! Wow impressive how you did it. Very helpful in trying to attempt do the same with my site. First i have to get thru all those key words!
NIce site, Design is great- so are your products you sell. Its to bad no one has come up with a mega BIG 3 POD integration script!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My eyes are glued! Wow impressive how you did it. Very helpful in trying to attempt do the same with my site. First i have to get thru all those key words!<br />
NIce site, Design is great- so are your products you sell. Its to bad no one has come up with a mega BIG 3 POD integration script!</p>
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